Top Mexico real estate, Cancun real estate, Playa del Carmen real estate Fraud Beware

Thomas  Lloyd  Lopez president of  TopMexicoRealState.com is not person you should trust.

Thomas Lloyd Lopez is not only a  liar but is very very adept in misleading people that he could find any sort of benefit to himself and his bank account.

Do not give him Money or commit to any money or money exchange or goods with Thomas Lloyd Lopez.  I learned the hard way, I will share my story and demonstrate he is not to be trusted. He drags other people that own residential communities that Thomas Lloyd Lopes sells, despite him saying otherwise.

Do not give any deposit or advances to Thomas Lloyd or to any of the housing projects he advertises they work with complicity.

You will regret doing business with him on some of the residential he advertises, condos for sale in Cancun or Playa del Carmen or anywhere in the Mayan Peninsula.

Thomas Lloyd is a fraud. Read bellow and you be the judge.

 

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From: Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: tried to call you
To: Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>Hola Thomas, como va tu proyecto espero que bien, tengo un viaje para Julio
a Playa del Carmen, espero conocerte. Un favor, me gustaria ver fotografias
donde se encuentran los muebles, quisiera promoverlos en mi pagina que esta
a punto de ser renovada y necesito muchas fotos de mis muebles para tener
mayor impacto y mejores resultados.Gracias
Oscar Almaguer
HaciendaRustica.com

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

Jun 8 2015

to me

Hola Oscar

Good morning.

I have not been part of the show room, marketing,  sales administrative decisions for a LONG time over in hacienda del rio nor with Cesar since the beginning of 2014 and earlier….Cesar and I did not see eye to eye on many many items, I am not fighting,  but just completely different methods and philosophies….

but please call me up on the phone.

(984) 807 – 9079

it has been a long time since we have spoken.
I am interested in what has been going on with you…with what you are doing with Cesar over in Hacienda del Rio.

and your plans on coming over to Riviera Maya.

I have since from fist meeting you…. and introducing you to Cesar,   moved on and have a partner developer whose team and my team are working very extremely solid.  We are doing our own in house projects…  several as a matter of fact.  My partners are some of the largest land owners in Quintana Roo.   Two projects already launched this year in tulum,  and several over here in Playa del Carmen.  Our buyers representative team has now broken records on the amount of sales we have had per month and per year for the last 3 years!   When I was with Cesar we had about 3 agents….today we have nearly 15.
so give me a call on the phone.

the emails will be very tardy for me to see and respond so calling is the best method

saludos

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

Jun 8

to Thomas

I am glad you are doing well, I need pictures of the furniture I released to you under contract. I need them to make a new catalog. I need them yesterday your help will be appreciated.

Thank You
Oscar Almaguer
HaciendaRustica.com

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

Jun 8

to me

Oscar

as mentioned,

Several years ago, I presented varous general  options on how you and the developer Cesar, could work together to get joint marketing and sales efforts that benefitted both Cesar to outfit his showroom and for you to get further publicity.
I introduced the both of you,  and you both found and approved a joint work relation strategy.
Any contracts or agreements were made between the both of your organizations which I do not have the authority to approve or to execute.

I recall that you and Cesar made arrangements for paying on some of the items which he included and sold to some of his clients.  Again, I did not receive any commissions or was not involved in your dealings with Cesar in such.

Top Mexico,  where I do  have authorization ,and  I made commitments with you to place your banner and advertising for a good amount of time with links right to your page which we fullfilled 2 years ago.

But since then,  you and Cesar have done further business,  which I do not know the details

You and Cesar arranged for the shipping, purchase and any other deals that you all did.

As mentioned,  Cesar and I do not have any relation,  commitments Cesar has made with your team will need to be addressed between you two since I have not been involved in any marketing or sales adminsitration with Cesar for all of this time

Has Cesar replied to your questions?

I can send a message to Cesar to get in touch with you,  and I am sure he will be happey to send you photos of your products,  but I have no idea what Cesar is up to.

thanks

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

Jun 8

to Thomas

Thomas the contract was made between you and me, the contract has you logo letter head. You can to to Miguel if you would like.  I have not tried to reach him, I am sure things are fine. If think you are not responsible for the furniture let me know and I will know to do.

Thank You
Oscar Almaguer

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

Jun 8

to me

Hello Oscar

There is only a certain group of people who have the authority and legal authority to sign contracts on behalf of our team top mexico.

could you send me a copy of the contract that you have?

I am sure there is a logical explanation.

we should start here with a copy of this contract.

But as I mentioned, who is in control of paying for the shipment, paying for the furniture, or taking care of your furniture is Cesar the developer.  top mexico introduced you to Cesar the developer to help find Cesar a solution on decking out the showroom back 2 of 3 years ago.   The responsibility of decking out the showroom or delivering a show room is the developer.  Top Mexico is not in a position to take control of products within a property that we have no control on whatsoever,  I would not take on this responsbility without a close due diligent review.  Cesar has always had close control of the show house as a developer and owner of the property.

Who paid for the freight ?  did you help Cesar out on this?

Who paid for the furniture, to my understanding Cesar bought some of the stuff,  I think?

I think he also returned some items due to quality items…..but these are communications that I was not involved.

As you said,  I am sure that Cesar has your furniture as he is the one you shipped out to and it is under his responsbility.

We have been away from dealings with Cesar for a looooong time.

We bring him buyers and prospects….but we do not have any responsibility or authority of his marketing efforts, contiued marketing relations and commitments.  We only do property sales for them.

Thanks

T Lloyd

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

Jun 9

to Thomas

Thomas I am a little puzzled with your attempt to shift your responsibility.  I made the deal with you all the way to the end. I made sure of that. This person I never met and introduced as part of your team by yourself,  If you are trying to pin those responsibilities to him, you better be certain of what you are doing, unnecessary people will get involved and they are not cheap. You do what you have to do and get my furniture back to me in the condition I shipped or pay their cost as agreed per contract it is not a lot of money. I advise you to keep it simple.

Thank You

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

Jun 9

to me

 

Oscar

Call me

Or give your cell phone and tell me best time for me to call you.

Tom

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From: Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:49:06 -0700
To: Thomas Lloyd<tlloydmx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hi Tim this is Omar what is up

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

Jun 9

to Thomas

Sorry, Tim

I prefer emails to conversations. Email only. This is what I want: based on your attempt to deflect your responsibility over this contract, I demand my furniture back where it was picked up from or full payment 30 days from this date (June 9, 2015).
–Oscar Almaguer
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Thomas Lloyd emailed the contract on 8.6.13

We released the $13,000.00 custom order furniture.

 

 

list of items requested by Cathy Morrison

Inbox x

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

6/18/13
to me

Hello Oscar!

 

I first hope that you dont mind that we took images from your web site while Cathy was choosing furniture.

We placed them within the power point above attached.

 

We would like to place the order on the door as you will see in the first slide.

The dimensions of the door are as follows;

2.37 x 1.04

Thanks

Please advise

Thomas Lloyd

Attachments area

Preview attachment 2013-06-16 HACIENDA RUSTICO FINAL LIST.pptx

2013-06-16 HACIENDA RUSTICO FINAL LIST.pptx

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

6/21/13
to me

Hello Oscar

I dont know if you saw this email and attachment

Please confirm reception

Cheers

T homas

From: Thomas Lloyd [mailto:tlloydmx@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:24 PM
To: ‘Hacienda Rustica’
Subject: list of items requested by Cathy Morrison
Importance: High

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Preview attachment 2013-06-16 HACIENDA RUSTICO FINAL LIST.pptx

2013-06-16 HACIENDA RUSTICO FINAL LIST.pptx

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

6/21/13
to Thomas

Hello Thomas, I saw it but it is not clear, make  simple list of the items you want I will make you a custom page with details, tell Cathy to design freely I will manufacture what she designs.

Door pre-hung?, with glass ?

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.com

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

6/23/13
to me

Good morning Oscar

I put   the list  into an Excel sheet

Made some comments

Hope this helps!

Cheers

Thomas

 

 

From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 8:51 PM
To: Thomas Lloyd
Subject: Re: FW: list of items requested by Cathy Morrison

Attachments area

Preview attachment 2013-06-22 hacienda rustica list.xlsx

2013-06-22 hacienda rustica list.xlsx

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

7/10/13
to Thomas

http://haciendarustica.com/thomas_lloyd.htm

Hi Thomas, make decisions please, discuss all you want option 1 or 2, it takes me 3-4 weeks to fabricate all your order, then shipping, if by common carrier cost consider 3-5 weeks at 2 K$ or our truck one week at 3-4K$.

I almost completed the 1 dining set then stopped on my tracks when realised it was an option being discussed. I love to have Cathy decide since she is the designer, all I need is specs.   I won’t c/c Cathy but please make it simple for me.

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

7/11/13
to me

Hello Oscar

Thanks very much.

I am having Cathy make all decisions.
do you have a phone or cell phone where we can call you.

I will get together with Cathy here at my office and have a conference call with you to confirm all pending items.

I also sent the link you gave me to cathy.

So that she and you will be looking off of the same spreadsheet.

Thanks very much Oscar!!

Please tell me

Your phone:
Best Day to call you:

Best hour to call you:

Cheers

T Lloyd

From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:45 PM

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

7/11/13
to Thomas

I will call you this weekend from Mexico, a simple list is fine I will modify the order on your custom page as often as needed until we get it right. let me know quickly about the dining set style, the console is being carved. also the stools can have rotating seats 38.00 extra each.

Thank You

Oscar Almageur

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

7/11/13
to me

Fantastic
My cell phone is
984 807 9079
I will send you cathy’s as well later
T Lloyd

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From: Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:17:14 -0700

To: Thomas Lloyd<tlloydmx@gmail.com>

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

7/18/13
to muribe, Cathy, me

Oscar,

I am copying Miguel Uribe who is on my team to help the process and communications.

Miguel, puedes hacer contacto con Sr. Oscar por teléfono, y coordinar que los peticiones de Cathy llegan.

No se si hay un teléfono nuevo de Sr. Oscar

Si hay otro email mas fácil de utilizar,

El construcción ya esta dentro de 10 dias de terminado y nos urge tener ya los muebles en el show casa para empezar tomar fotos, videos, y exhibir.

Saludos!

Lic. Thomas Lloyd

From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:17 PM

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

7/18/13
to me, Cathy, muribe

Miguel

Aquí hay otro email,  y puedes ver en lo que esta trabajando el Sr. Oscar.

Lo que habíamos acordado.

 

Sr. Oscar esta en proceso de abrir un tienda aquí en Riviera Maya.

Nos encanto sus muebles.

Vamos ayudar Sr. Oscar introducir sus líneas aquí en Riviera Maya y la industria.

Vamos exhibir los muebles en la casa showroom, dando crédito, y teléfono, emails websites de Hacienda Rustica.

Los clientes que compran las casas y condos de Hacienda del Rio,   seguro se van encantar a comprar muebles de Hacienda Rustica.

Y,  también vamos hacer menciones, videos, fotos en todo nuestros paginas de internet también para dar mas publicidad a Hacienda Rustica

 

Sr. Oscar, va a dar en acomodato,  consignación,  todo los muebles.

Un puerta,  el puerta principal,  nuestro desarrollador Cesar, si va comprar este puerta.

El flete,  se va pagar Cesar para que los muebles llegan aquí en Playa del Carmen.

 

Saludos a todos

 

Thomas Lloyd

 

From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:45 PM

Cathy Morrison <cathy@allmorrisons.com>

7/18/13
to Thomas, me, muribe

What furniture?

Sent from land of Oz!
On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:14 PM, “Thomas Lloyd” <tlloydmx@gmail.com> wrote:

Miguel

Aquí hay otro email,  y puedes ver en lo que esta trabajando el Sr. Oscar.

Lo que habíamos acordado.

Sr. Oscar esta en proceso de abrir un tienda aquí en Riviera Maya.

Nos encanto sus muebles.

Vamos ayudar Sr. Oscar introducir sus líneas aquí en Riviera Maya y la industria.

Vamos exhibir los muebles en la casa showroom, dando crédito, y teléfono, emails websites de Hacienda Rustica.

Los clientes que compran las casas y condos de Hacienda del Rio,   seguro se van encantar a comprar muebles de Hacienda Rustica.

Y,  también vamos hacer menciones, videos, fotos en todo nuestros paginas de internet también para dar mas publicidad a Hacienda Rustica

Sr. Oscar, va a dar en acomodato,  consignación,  todo los muebles.

Un puerta,  el puerta principal,  nuestro desarrollador Cesar, si va comprar este puerta.

El flete,  se va pagar Cesar para que los muebles llegan aquí en Playa del Carmen.

 

Saludos a todos

 

Thomas Lloyd

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From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:45 PM
To: Thomas Lloyd
Subject: Re: FW: list of items requested by Cathy Morrison

http://haciendarustica.com/thomas_lloyd.htm

Hi Thomas, make decisions please, discuss all you want option 1 or 2, it takes me 3-4 weeks to fabricate all your order, then shipping, if by common carrier cost consider 3-5 weeks at 2 K$ or our truck one week at 3-4K$.

I almost completed the 1 dining set then stopped on my tracks when realised it was an option being discussed. I love to have Cathy decide since she is the designer, all I need is specs.   I won’t c/c Cathy but please make it simple for me.

Thank You

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.Com

 

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning Oscar

I put   the list  into an Excel sheet

Made some comments

Hope this helps!

Cheers

Thomas

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From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 8:51 PM
To: Thomas Lloyd
Subject: Re: FW: list of items requested by Cathy Morrison

Hello Thomas, I saw it but it is not clear, make  simple list of the items you want I will make you a custom page with details, tell Cathy to design freely I will manufacture what she designs.

Door pre-hung?, with glass ?

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.com

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Oscar

 

I dont know if you saw this email and attachment

Please confirm reception

 

Cheers

T homas

 

<image001.jpg>

 

 

From: Thomas Lloyd [mailto:tlloydmx@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:24 PM
To: ‘Hacienda Rustica’
Subject: list of items requested by Cathy Morrison
Importance: High

 

Hello Oscar!

I first hope that you dont mind that we took images from your web site while Cathy was choosing furniture.

We placed them within the power point above attached.

We would like to place the order on the door as you will see in the first slide.

The dimensions of the door are as follows;

2.37 x 1.04

Thanks

Please advise

Thomas Lloyd

 

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Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

7/30/13
to Cathy

Hola Thomas, if all possible send me links where you webpages will link our webpage, I will be happy to add those to ours HaciendaRustica.com, who knows, I may get a customer before these 2 next months and delivery would be done sooner and in our trucks.

Le agradeceria que esta mutua publicidad quede constatada en el contrato que ahora redacta.

Gracias por adelantado.

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.com

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

8/2/13
to Thomas, Miguel

Thomas the deal is with you that is a must.  Please read the comments and reply.

Gracias  Lic.

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.com

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Preview attachment 2013-07-30 contrato consignacion de mercancias2.docx

2013-07-30 contrato consignacion de mercancias2.docx

Thomas Lloyd <tlloydmx@gmail.com>

8/6/13
to me, Miguel

Oscar

Hello.

Miguel is working on the final details and corrections on the AGREEMENT.

The reason that the contract / agreement is placed between the developer and with you the supplier is the following
Top Mexico is dedicated in only Marketing and Sales.

The expenses of setting up showrooms, and decorating the showrooms is always the responsibility of the developer.

Our team in marketing, we usually request to the developer, “in order for our team to be able to sell your project, we need the following items….nice landscaping, finished showhouse with FURNITURE and Staged”.

The responsibility of the upkeep and maintenance of all these items therefore are normally written and placed upon the developer.

If we place TOP Mexico in the center, it will triangulate.

The marketing, preparing the physical tickets that go on the furniture, and presenting your company to consumers.

This I will make the responsibility to Cesar the developer and thus his commitment to you.
At the end of the day, the person or entity (Cesars development company)  that will be paying for the transportation, for the care and warehousing of your furniture,  is Cesar.

I prefer to have a very clean straight agreement between your organizations…

If you wish, I can make a separate agreement for the marketing within our web pages.?

Thanks!

T Lloyd

 

From: Hacienda Rustica [mailto:haciendarustica.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:18 AM
To: Thomas Lloyd
Cc: Miguel Uribe
Subject: Re: list of items requested by Cathy Morrison

Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

8/6/13
to Thomas

I like your style Thomas, sus aseguranzas y reputación me agradan,  we shall proceed, I will have  pictures of Cathy’s request on some products soon, the Carved dining Set in Dark stain with a light yellow fabric design, very nice, great design of color combination!

I like the triangulation of mutual benefit Thomas, this will go well as it cannot go in any other direction, lets extend the contract to 5 years Thomas I sense that Cesar will agree, we all put a few eggs in one basket y yo mas huevos since got more at stake.

I expect to have pictures of all finished pieces in 3 weeks, August 23.

If you have other developments, where you could minimise my risk of return and maximise your, lets chat sometime. I furnished many Beach properties to your paisanos from Loreto Bay if you need references or contacts.

Here is an idea for a mutual link. I will correspond with a great direct link from my website to yours.

Thank You

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.com

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Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

May 4
to Thomas

Hello Thomas, how are you doing with Hacienda del Rio are you making any sales..? Just checking in…

I may see you in a couple of months I have a delivery, possibly 2.

Thank you

Oscar Almaguer

HaciendaRustica.com

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9/7/13
to Beatriz, Cathy, Miguel, me

Hello Cathy,

 

 

I want to have all the furniture, curtains, all ready for photo shoots, for videos on the 28th September 2013

And then a few days later we have planned the open house with brokers event.

And then another open house event with local clubs.

 

 

I agree with you Cathy,

We need Miguel to put together what is not going to be delivered as to your outline, and start going to work to find solutions.

 

 

Urgent  (MIGUEL)

1)      Identify what is lacking on the furniture

2)      Get the furniture what is available on the truck and shipped first thing (I do not want to wait for anything else, we need furniture to be moving at beginning of the week)

3)      Start visiting local furniture places to purchase what is lacking (again, several of these places will have lead times which Miguel will need to solution)

 

 

–       Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

From: Cathy Morrison [mailto:cathy@allmorrisons.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 9:09 AM
To: Thomas Lloyd
Cc: Miguel Uribe; Hacienda Rustica

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Hacienda Rustica <haciendarustica.com@gmail.com>

Jun 7

to Thomas, Cesar

Saludos Cesar , el tema ( subject) es un chiste viejo entre Thomas ysolo un servidor. Oscar

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